View Full Version : Round II: Another Facebook Page to Legalize Dog Fighting
Michele
10-17-2010, 01:15 PM
Thousands on Facebook participated in reporting a Facebook Fan Page advocating for the legalization of dog fighting. When I blogged about it, social media then did what it can do best - and exponentially FB received so many protests, they took down the page.
http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/steve-dale-pet-world/assets_c/2010/10/FB%20dog%20fighting%20page-thumb-217x198-244059.jpg
Now, the group or twisted individual has simply begun a new page. One Million Strong to Legalize Dogfighting.
We did it once - we can get it removed again.
Please be very careful NOT to click 'Like.' Instead, scroll all the way down the left and click 'REPORT PAGE.' (I also wouldn't partake in the discussion on that page - they may be seeking the attention and why waste your time?)
Those who have this page maintain, "They can try to shut us down, but the last time I checked we still have freedom of speech in this country."
Sure, there's freedom of speech - but not to incite violence. And if these people really do fight dogs (who knows?) then there always other crimes going on. Most dog fighters expose children to this horrific violence. This desensitizes kids, and we know there's a Link between violence to animals and violence to people. Dog fighting is a felony. And they are offering advise on this page on how to commit a felony.
This also very much against Facebook's own rules:
"You will not post content that: is hateful, threatening, or pornographic; incites violence; or contains nudity or graphic or gratuitous violence."
Free speech issue aside - lawyers tell me,
- Facebook is a private business, with a right to have their own reasonable rules and a right to enforce these rules.
- Promoting violence on the Internet, offering advice on how to commit a felony - may not be a matter of free speech.
A Facebook page set up to support the removal this violent page which advocates dog fighting.
(Please share this post - so we can get the page removed)
http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/steve-dale-pet-world/2010/10/round-ii-another-facebook-page-to-legalize-dog-fighting.html
sw_df27
10-18-2010, 08:57 AM
Could be the police however I will report them
on another note when I search for the page I can't find it so maybe it's already been taken down?
Michele
10-18-2010, 09:43 AM
Could be the police however I will report them
on another note when I search for the page I can't find it so maybe it's already been taken down?
It could of already been taken down. The problem is they keep putting new pages back up on Facebook.
pitbullFriend
10-19-2010, 01:23 AM
No offense but I don't think the page should be removed. Don't get me wrong dog fighting is absolutely horrible but if some douchebags want to talk about it like its a good thing I feel they should have that freedom of expression. Besides fighting back in that manner wont actually change their opinion but just strengthen it because the type of personality that will advocate such an act in public is simply craving negative attention through rebellion and your giving them that negative attention, because they know just as well as you do that such legislation will never actually be approved.
Dansgrizz
10-19-2010, 02:00 AM
Last time I check... Facebook is world wide, in many countries... Where things of this nature are legal...
Michele
10-19-2010, 09:33 AM
No offense but I don't think the page should be removed. Don't get me wrong dog fighting is absolutely horrible but if some douchebags want to talk about it like its a good thing I feel they should have that freedom of expression. Besides fighting back in that manner wont actually change their opinion but just strengthen it because the type of personality that will advocate such an act in public is simply craving negative attention through rebellion and your giving them that negative attention, because they know just as well as you do that such legislation will never actually be approved.
No offense taken at all:) Just as they should have their freedom of expression, we, here in America, should have the freedom of expression to demand the page be taken down.
Me personally, I don't want to see that shit plastered up. It's disgusting and since I live in America, I don't want to see it, regardless of what country it's coming from.
It's the year 2010. There is no place for dogfighting. While I would never condone it, I understand it from a "history" point of view.
Axiom
10-21-2010, 01:01 PM
It's the year 2010. There is no place for dogfighting. While I would never condone it, I understand it from a "history" point of view.
I support your right to have an opinion and to also express it. I do however disagree with your assumtion that it is OK to use the Federal Government to enforce your "opinion" of dog-fighting. I on the other hand believe that that Federal Government has NO buisness intruding on my personal property rights as a dog owner. Just remember what I said, when the government, weather local,state or federal takes your dog/property from you one day. And they probably will one day.
I am not opposed to the matching of dogs ( in theory ) if basic Cajun Rules would apply. As long as both said animals are "willing participants" in the contest I see it as fair and honest competition. There does come a time when I do believe for the animals sake/life that the said owner must "pick up" when there is good evidence of a "no win" situation. This was once refered to as a "gentlemans sport" you know. I don't care if it is 100 BC or 2010 AD the basic principle does not change. What the sport has become since the laws both state and federal have gotten worse IS terrible. When thugs and criminals are the only ones continuing with the dogs the outcome shouldnt suprise anyone. The storys I hear on a regular basis honestly sicken me. The fact that it is a FEDERAL crime now is NOT stopping them... so much for that theory. Sure it stops normal, every day, law abiding citizens like myself and probably everyone on this board, but the scumbags will continue on.....ruining the breed and abusing their animals. Innocent people always end up loosing their rights when more laws are passed and the role of government grows.
With all of that said, I am going to go out on a limb here and say that YES in theory dogfighting should be legal or rather the Federal Government has no place intruding on my personal property rights as granted by the constitution. If you choose to live by BIG government you will one day die by by BIG government (figurativly speaking) I always choose to err on the side of FREEDOM and LIBERTY! I will leave it up to the individual to make his own personal and moral choices so as long as he is not harming another person.
T
Michele
10-21-2010, 01:37 PM
This was once refered to as a "gentlemans sport" you know.
That was then, this is now. Unfortunately, some of these "gentlemen" opened their circle, which in turn, started the downward crash of this wonderful breed. From there, these dogs went to thugs, BYBs and your wanna-be assholes. So, again, while I respect the history, in this day and age, because of so many irresponsible people, dogfighting would only add more fire to an already bad situation.
Axiom: I also respect your opinion on this topic!
Axiom
10-21-2010, 08:12 PM
That was then, this is now. Unfortunately, some of these "gentlemen" opened their circle, which in turn, started the downward crash of this wonderful breed. From there, these dogs went to thugs, BYBs and your wanna-be assholes. So, again, while I respect the history, in this day and age, because of so many irresponsible people, dogfighting would only add more fire to an already bad situation.
Axiom: I also respect your opinion on this topic!
I respect your opinion as well but I disagree with it. I do believe if it became legal that the conditions would improve rather than get worse. More honest and responsible people would be involved. I have no doubt that your intentions are good and that you are good for the breed. Our perspectives are just different.
T
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