MMA discussion thread.

[Leon]

Since i am a huge fan of MMA, i figured we will have a MMA thread to discuss fighters, events, promotions..anything MMA related.

My favorite fighters are.

HW: Fedor Emelianenko
LHW: Lyoto Machida
MW: Anderson Silvia
WW: GSP
LW: BJ penn
FW: Urijah Faber

I my favorite organizations are the UFC and PRIDE (RIP:(), I also watch Dream and Strikeforce whenever i get the chance.

So what you guys think about the upcoming fight cards? I am exited about UFC 100 and Affliction triology.

Did you guys hear the latest news. Crocop is comming back to the UFC (http://mmajunkie.com/news/15054/mirko-cro-cop-filipovic-returns-ufc-officially-announces-ufc-99-bout-with-mostapha-al-turk.mma)..yay!

Oh even bigger news...Kimbo Slice is going to be on the next season of the Ultimate fighter coached by Quinton Rampage Jackson and Rashad Evans. (http://mmajunkie.com/news/15060/kimbo-slice-scores-the-ultimate-fighter-10-slot.mma)

[Dansgrizz]

I used to wrestle with urijah faber when he was still doing small fights in sac... king of the ring stuff... wed always get free tickets. it was cool.

[Leon]

So i am guessing your gonna be rooting for him in his upcoming fight with Mike Brown.

[Dansgrizz]

For Sure! damn bastard wont hook up the tickets anymore though LOL...

[Leon]

Yeah...hes gotten huge...Hes the poster boy for WEC. I hope his defeat to brown was a humbling experience, and he comes out strong in the next match.

[Dansgrizz]

his conditioning is incredible and his striking is strong his wrestling skills aint bad either ;) i think he will do it.

[Leon]

Yes...but Mike Brown has KO power. So Faber need to be quick, and use his wrestling to take it to the mat. I think he will win, but i can never count Brown out.

[Dansgrizz]

Crocops coming back huh? i used to be a huge fan but after that first UFC fight he had and got rodney kinged.... i lost hope.

[Leon]

Well crocop had a hard time transitioning to the cage from the ring. Gabe got lucky in the first fight. And the second fight Congo just held crocop in the cage and humped him the whole fight. Hope he is prepared for the cage this time.

[ItsMe]

Whoa, Kimbo is gonna be on the ultimate fighter. Thats actually kind of cool. I don't care what anybody says, I think he actually has potential. I was reading a mma column on yahoo the other day and some of the user comments were saying that Fedor is overrated. Anybody who knows mma, knows that Fedor is, simply put, amazing. Dude is a machine, he would run all over ANYBODY in UFC. It's funny how people make UFC out to be the holy grail of MMA. Everytime I turn around Frank Mir is saying something about Fedor or Brock or whoever. I really hope Brock beats the dogs**t out of him. Cool thread.

[Leon]

Fedor is the best heavy weight in the history of MMA. And yes he could beat anyone in the UFC or any other organization. But i do want him to fight in the UFC, because its a win for the fans. In the UFC we get Fedor vs Brock, Fedor vs Randy, Fedor vs Nog (Again lol), Fedor vs Carwin, Fedor vs Gabe Gonzaga..etc. Outside the UFC...we only have Fedor vs Barnett, and Fedor vs Alistar Overeem.

As for Kimbo, hes a cool guy but hes not a great MMA fighter as marketed by proelite. I am glad Kimbo wants to be considered legit and try out TUF. And its awesome for the fans too.

Yes i do hope Brock beat the crap out of Mir, It will be like his second accident lol

[ItsMe]

Frank Mir talks too much. He's like another Dana White. Their cool and all, but they are not better than everybody. If Kimbo really trained like an MMA fighter is supposed to, for a long time, I think he could he could be good. Fedor should come to the UFC and show that he is the best of the best. He wouldn't be like Cro-Cop, he would win no matter what.

[Leon]

Well and it would solidify his legacy, and prove without a doubt that he is the best.

What you think of machida?..you think he will be like fedor, hes undefeated as well.

[ItsMe]

I'm pretty impressed with the little bit I've seen. I like his style. It seems like everybody is kinda doin the same thing these days, but he's doing it a little differently. I think he will go very far in his career, I hope he keeps winning.

[Leon]

What you think about Machida's next match against Shogun rua? Its a hard one for me since i like em both. Shogun was awesome is PRIDE. i think if Shogun shows up in the same form he was in Pride he could take it. But at the same time, Shogun's aggressive style plays into the hands of the elusive Machida and could get Thiago'ed lol. It should be a good match.

[ATLAS]

machida is a real good fighter...i missed the fight with evens. how did it go.i know evans lost but how was the fight. i like both those fighters..fedor is a beast , such a bad ass. if you watch the last fight mir vs brock..mir was not doing shit, brock didnt know better and got caught in a leg hold..hope brock beats him......hope kimbo makes it to the ultimate fighter so he can really get knocked out....faber vs brown now thats going to be good....going for faber.......anyone play the game yet if so how is it

[Leon]

Evans got KTFO.

http://www.cr3static.com/data/gif/lyotoslow.gif

[ATLAS]

damn that was crazy..

[Leon]

The whole fight Evans landed maybe three weak shots. I fear the same fate for shogun, since he likes to come forward, and it might play right into machida style.

I want to play the game so bad, i was considering getting a 360 just to play it. Everyone says even though it has its flaws, its really fun, and a must own for MMA fans.

[ItsMe]

Theres some thing coming to my hometown (St.Louis) this weekend that some local fighters are promoting. Arlovski is gonna be there. Would love to go. If only I could cross the state line (I live right across the Sip in Illinois now). Oh well, I'm sure Andrei Arlovski will be coming here again real soon.

[Leon]

Why cant you cross the state line? Looks like a good show to attended, especially with Arlovski, you should try to go.

[Leon]

Huge weekend of upsets, the biggest one being Andrei Arlovski loosing to Brett Rogers.
http://www.fightreport.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/brett-rogers_andrei-arlovski.gif

Also Mike Brown beat Urijah Faber. Looks like Mike Brown is legit, i wonder what the next step is for Urijah.

[ATLAS]

urija broke his hand in the first round so he had to only use elbows the next four rounds...mik brown still could not take him out..yeah he won ...there will e another rematch...

[Leon]

Yeah, it sucks that he broke his hands, not only because it played a huge part in his loss, but also that he will be sidelined till it heals up.

UFC 99 is coming up.

My picks.

Catchweight (195 lb) bout: Rich Franklin vs. Wanderlei Silva

Heavyweight bout:Cheick Kongo vs. Cain Velasquez[1]

Welterweight bout: Mike Swick vs. Ben Saunders[1]

Welterweight bout: Marcus Davis vs. Dan Hardy[1]

Lightweight bout: Spencer Fisher vs. Caol Uno[1]

Heavyweight bout: Mirko Filipović vs. Mostapha Al-turk[1]

[ATLAS]

ok my picks....wanderlei silva have to go with pride fighter...cheick kongo i dont know why ....mike quick swick fastest ko i think thats the guy...mirko comeback....i hope im not working so i can see it

[Leon]

Rich Franklin is more well rounded than Wanderlei, but Wanderlei has better stand up, Wanderlei has to work on his head movements, he is getting slow lately. But i think he can KO Franklin.

Cain Valasquez is up and coming, and is undefeated with convincing victories. He is great on the feet and on the ground. But Kongo does have better clinch, so if he can hold Cain against the cage and use dirty boxing, he could pull it off.

[ItsMe]

Anybody catch the ultimate finale this weekend? It was pretty good. Lookin forward to UFC 100.

[Leon]

I missed it and was pretty bummed. But i heard the main event between Guida and Sanchez was an absolute war.

UFC 100 is going to be good, this summer is going to be great for MMA fans. Lots of good fights.

[ItsMe]

It was a war, that and the Chris Lytle fight were amazing. It was a pay per view quality event as far as how good the fights were.

[OldfortKennels]

IM a huge MMA fan but have gotten sick of $40 payperviews every other week! I did alittle training back in the day but am nowhere near the shape I used to be in!!!

[kumhomomma]

My son calls it BOO BOO's he comes running if hubby watching it and waits till blood then yells BOO BOO's momma he's boo boo..He will be 2 in aug.Already got the sport down.lmao My dad dont know much about MMA but go him a tap out shirt.It takes ALOT to get that shirt off him.He will yell my boo boo shirts

[nyce22]

my wife is a big fan of MMA and boxing. basically anything physical that involves blood and gore. thats what she watches when she isnt at one of my games. i think its ok... but im a wrestler so i pull for the people with strong wrestling foundations lol

[Leon]

I normally root for people with good muai thai. But i will admit, wresting is the single most important base skill in MMA. If you are good at wresting, and learn decent striking, you can pretty much run through most people.

[christySYK]

So who was disappointed with the Ultimate Fighter Finale?

ME!

can't even talk about it irks me to bad. GRRRrrr

[Leon]

Disappointed?, it wasn't bad at all. Other than a few judging decisions..melvin gullard did not win that fight.

[christySYK]

I had such HIGH hopes for DaMarques though to win for the US. His last fight to get in to the finales was INSANE! I was yelling at the tv lol It was horribly disappointing to see him be submitted in the first round with only 8 seconds to go. He should have held out for those 8 seconds. Blah! I bet we will see DaMarques in the ring again though he's a great fighter.

Oh well I am looking forward to Henderson beating the snot outta Bisping and I hope Mir knocks Lesner silly.

[Leon]

Mir is not knocking out Lesnar, Mir does not have KO power, just because he TKO'ed Noguera who wasn't even 100% in his fight does not mean Mir has a great stand up, just that Noguera's stand up sucked. I predict this fight to go just like the first one, Mir knocks down Lesnar, then proceeds to GnP him for a TKO.

As for Henderson-Bisbing fight, i have a feeling Bisbing is going to counter strike the whole time, and Henderson needs to take him to the ground as soon as possible, and control him. I will be rooting for Henderson, but there is no clear favorite on who is going to win this one.

[christySYK]

I didn't say he was GOING to knock him out just that I want him to. I can't stand Lesner the guys a moron lol

Bisping and Henderson and pretty even matched so we'll see, it will def be a good fight.

[Leon]

Yeah, Lesnar is completely unsportsmanlike. After the heath herring fight, i lost a lot of respect for him as a person. I admit he is a great athlete, but a total d-bag. The only reason i want Lesnar to win is because, there are a lot of exiting matches later on, with Cain, Dos Santos, or Carwin. Fedor needs to get his ass to the UFC, if he is the best HW in the world, prove it in the biggest stage for MMA.

[CASH]

Dana White has talked alot of crap about Kimbo in the past saying that the only way he would let him in the UFC is to make it through the Ultimate Fighter. I also hear that the up coming season will be only heavy weights and they dont fight their way onto the show like the past few seasons. Anyone else heard this?

[Leon]

Yup, Its only heavy weights and is coached by Quinton Rampage Jackson and Rashad Evans who are light heavy weights...hmmmm..Also the contestant don't have to have to fight their way in. I mean it makes sense in terms of marketing, what if Kimbo looses the fight, the biggest draw of the season is gone.

[ItsMe]

Yeah, I had read this a few weeks ago. My understanding is that its true.

[ItsMe]

Oops. Anywho, its almost guaranteed Kimbo won't fight until later in the show.

[Leon]

I would be surprised if Kimbo makes it out of his first fight. Probably they will give him an easy opponent. But none the less, props to Kimbo for trying to prove himself on TUF.

[ItsMe]

I want to see him do well. If only to shut up Dana White's arrogant ass.

[razors_edge]

Crocops coming back huh? i used to be a huge fan but after that first UFC fight he had and got rodney kinged.... i lost hope.

yeah baby CRO COP all the way...my fellow country man... be on the look out for him, watch out for that left kick....

[razors_edge]

kimbo is not ment for the UFC he will always get his ass kicked, he got his ass kicked in elite xc....the only reason he has all the hype is because of his street fights when he used to beat up lil punks but when he gets in the ring with a pro..lights out kimbo slice, stick a fork in him, hes done....

[Leon]

I will truly be shocked if Kimbo wins TUF and gets a UFC contract. I say he wont get past his first match...

[ItsMe]

I don't think you could really say he got his ass kicked in Elite XL....

[razors_edge]

i just dont like kimbo, i think he doesnt belong in the ufc....as for ufc 100...

lesnar will beat mir....lesnar knows what mir is goin to do....mir cant go toe to toe with lesnar so the fight will probably be on the ground ending in referee stoppage due to strikes...LESNAR 1st round

GSP will beat Thiago Silva....hes just goin to whoop his ass, so what if silva beat hughes, hughes is old already not in his prime anymore...GSP KO 2nd Rd.

Henderson Over Bisping.....i hate Bisping attitude and his a real a-hole by the way he potrayed himself on TUF...IMO opinion the fight will go the distance, they are both good on their feet, its goin to be a good fight overall....Henderson by Decision

[Leon]

I agree with all of them, except GSP via KO? thats a bold prediction. I say GSP TKO R3 or R4

[razors_edge]

i have to be confident about GSP hes my favorite fighter next to Cro Cop.....

[razors_edge]

Mir is not knocking out Lesnar, Mir does not have KO power, just because he TKO'ed Noguera who wasn't even 100% in his fight does not mean Mir has a great stand up, just that Noguera's stand up sucked. I predict this fight to go just like the first one, Mir knocks down Lesnar, then proceeds to GnP him for a TKO.

As for Henderson-Bisbing fight, i have a feeling Bisbing is going to counter strike the whole time, and Henderson needs to take him to the ground as soon as possible, and control him. I will be rooting for Henderson, but there is no clear favorite on who is going to win this one.

the first fight wasnt mir over lesnar by TKO he was submitted by ankle lock..

[Leon]

the first fight wasnt mir over lesnar by TKO he was submitted by ankle lock..

Oh i know, i was just saying, its just gonna go like the first one, except this time Brock wont make that amateurish mistake of getting caught into a leg lock.

[razors_edge]

Oh i know, i was just saying, its just gonna go like the first one, except this time Brock wont make that amateurish mistake of getting caught into a leg lock.

i agree my man.....

[razors_edge]

did he just say DHANI JONES the nfl linebacker the new heavyweight in ufc....check it out or am i just trippin....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpFb41nyj2Q&feature=related

[Leon]

Dana says a lot of things. So until i hear something more official from Zuffa i am going to take Dana's words with a grain of salt. But it is possible they are still in negotiation.

[razors_edge]

damn i seen dhani jones on the travel channel and when he fought in thailand....the dude is a beast but i really doubt that he can perform for a title in the UFC....what is he a Light Heavy Weight? it would be nice to see him fight, hes a good wrestler.....

[Leon]

I wonder what Dana thinks of Bobby Lashley, he seems to be improving after every fight and he is a awesome wrestler.

[razors_edge]

i like lashley he was very impressive in his fight against SAPP.....dana is a smart guy, whatever choices he makes is goin to be better for his pocket....he gets guys from other sports who already have hype and that makes the fights more intresting, which means more money for dana....

[ItsMe]

Thats all it really comes down to with Dana. Thats why its funny when he says stuff like Fedor isn't the best until he comes to UFC. Thats him using manipulation to try and line his pockets some more.

[Leon]

Dana actually said Fedor sucks. LOL. But in all honesty you cant be considered the best when you never fought in the biggest league. The UFC is where the best fighters are at the moment, so Fedor should come to the UFC to prove that he is still the best.

[ItsMe]

Him saying that is another way of trying to bait him in, I think. I think Fedor likes a pure fight thats about the fight, not the show of it. Nonetheless, I wish he would come to the UFC.

[Leon]

Affliction Trilogy looks pretty decent, much better than their older card. Exited to see Fedor in action, even though i know its probably going to be another lopsided victory. But i think this is the last fight on his contract with Affliction. So i am hoping there is some negotiation with the UFC.

[razors_edge]

yeah he has one more fight against Burnett and after that im pretty sure he is goin to come to the UFC and probably fight for the title within the first 3 fights.....Brock vs Fedor man, that would be a fight for the ages, i think Fedor would beat him....

[ItsMe]

I co-sign that...

[Leon]

I dont think there is one MMA fan that does not want to see Fedor fight Brock. It would be awesome. Even though Fedor vs Randy has lost its luster, i still want to see it, Randy still is a great technical fighter.

[razors_edge]

Randy? that fight was supposed to happen a long time ago...couture doesnt stand a chance against no1, not even Heath Herrings sorry azz...brock embaressed him...the only person i think could take on fedor is brock....i watch some of fedors fights and he is a beast.....hes like a heavyweight Gracie, doesnt look like he can fight, doesnt have the body build of a fighter....and he lost only one fight and that was early in his career, like the 4th or 5th fight back in 01-02.....he can only get better and he has proven that....this man will not lose until he gets older n is out of his prime....hes 33 yrs old and whoopin ass....arlovski is 3 years younger and he gets punished by sorry fighters IMO....Fedor will Not lose until he decides to retire.........JMO

[Leon]

But he cant retire while there are contenders out there to challenge him. You can only be considered the best of all time if you fight and beat all contenders. I don't know what Fedor will do after Affliction, but i hope he comes to the UFC, then no one can doubt him status as the best HW of all time.

As for Randy, well Brock had a huge size advantage on Randy. I think Fedor would be evenly matched for Randy, given the size, and Randy has really good wrestling and is very good at the clinch.

[razors_edge]

u forgot that hes 47 years old

[Leon]

And still in great shape. Well i will hold on that. I will wait till the Couture Noguera fight to make that statement. If couture can beat Noguera then i think he has a chance against Fedor.

[razors_edge]

randy doesnt have anything to prove anymore so i dont even know why he wants to fight. he is the greatest UFC heavyweight...i have respect for the man though, to b 47 and still have the drive to go into the ring and get his ass kicked by younger guys takes alot of balls....lol....hes like a pitbull, he never wants to quit....Noguiera is goin to beat him, not by knock out probably by decision.....What do yall think about the Griffin vs Silva....right now i think silva is the best fighter in the ufc and 80% of his fights he won by KO forrest griffin will be just another stat...

[Leon]

I don't know if Griffin will be KO'ed by the spider. Griffin has one of the best chins in MMA, and he never quits, Silvia will beat him, but i don't think it will be in a dominating fashion. Griffin can take a lot of punishment, so i would guess that the fight goes into the second round, or even third. I predict a second round TKO victory for Silvia. But this fight has the potential to go to decision.

[OldfortKennels]

I feel for Forrest. I like him but he was Dana's poster boy. Dana finally got the first and best fighter from HIS HOUSE to be a CH,then the poor guy lost and now has to face Anderson!! I don't see him winning, and I think it will be ugly for Forrest and I hate that because he trains and has the heart of a champ.

[razors_edge]

u kinda right man and silva is steppin into griffins division....the last fight silva had at lt heavy was james irvin and he KOd irvin...but irvin is no griffin though and that man is tough as nails....

[Leon]

Dana put Griffin when Silvia for one and only reason. To make it exiting. All of Silvia's recent opponents were terrible, and Dana apologized to the fans after the Silvia-Leites fight and promised better completion for Silvia. With Griffin you can be guaranteed a war, he is always active and pushes forward, He might not win all his fights but he goes out with a bang.

[razors_edge]

heart of a champ dont mean squat if u cant fight like a champ...

[razors_edge]

forrest griffin is not a finisher, he cant KO ppl out....most of his fights that he won were by decision....and Silva will make sure it doesnt go to the 3rd round....Silva is a bad man...

[Leon]

forrest griffin is not a finisher, he cant KO ppl out....most of his fights that he won were by decision....and Silva will make sure it doesnt go to the 3rd round....Silva is a bad man...

Hes not a finisher, but he always tries to finish, he is never inactive. Silvia is indeed a bad man.

http://i20.tinypic.com/2lcbmop.gif

[razors_edge]

he needs to try a lil bit harder next time...cuz he will get knocked out by silva if he doesnt try to take him out before silva does him

[Leon]

Griffins only chance is to take him down for some GNP. On the feet Silvia is going to dominate. Even on the ground Silvia has a black belt in BJJ, a lot of people seem to forget that.

[razors_edge]

its goin to be a good fight no maatter what the outcome is....

[CASH]

Forrest has the chin and the conditioning but I think he lacks the stand up to contend with Silva. On the other hand Silva hasn't fought a guy like Forrest at 205. I think it will come down to Silva properlly training and puting on the right weight to fight. Remember what Forest did to Shougun Hoa, worked him on the ground. Never count Forest out.

[CASH]

How long before you think Dana gives Anderson a title shot agenst Lyoto and who do you think will win.

[ItsMe]

Dana said on the ultimate finale that he wants to see his fighters clear their whole weight classes before he sets up a "super fight." I have a hard time picking a winner out of those two... I have a hard trying to pinpoint lyoto in general...

[Leon]

How long before you think Dana gives Anderson a title shot agenst Lyoto and who do you think will win.

Dana talked about it, but its one fight that will never happen. Anderson and Lyoto are from the same training camp, they train togather and are good friends. Anderson himself said that the 205 division is Lyotos.

[razors_edge]

Dana said on the ultimate finale that he wants to see his fighters clear their whole weight classes before he sets up a "super fight." I have a hard time picking a winner out of those two... I have a hard trying to pinpoint lyoto in general...

yeah its very hard to figure Lyoto out....the fight he had against Tito was a classic....he got tito so frustrated he didnt know what to do...tito was lucky to land a punch....Lyoto is the smartest fighter in the UFC, he figures out a gameplan and sticks to it no matter what.....i think Lyoto will beat Silva whenever the fight goes down...its going to be months, maybe a year before those two get in the ring....

[razors_edge]

if he wants to fight Machida for the Lt Heavy Belt, he has to beat Griffin...even if he does beat him i think Rashad is goin to get a chance to get his belt back....but Machida has to defend it first agaisnt Mauricio Rua....If rashad gets his belt back then Silva and Machida will have a better chance of fightin due to the fact there is no belt involved...

[razors_edge]

Dana talked about it, but its one fight that will never happen. Anderson and Lyoto are from the same training camp, they train togather and are good friends. Anderson himself said that the 205 division is Lyotos.

the fight wil happen eventually....i think if Dana puts up the cash and the fans want to see the fight, they will fight and hug and go to dinner afterwards....this is a bussiness and a job....

[Leon]

Lyoto is extremely elusive. A lot of people find his style boring, but i think its intriguing. No one has yet to land a clean punch on Lyoto. I think he is going to be a champ for a while. Shogun is a legit contender if he is fully recovered from his surgeries. But the problem is, when you go through knee surgery, your never fully recovered, but we will see.

[razors_edge]

lyoto knows how to defend against the attack, he gets them tired then capitalizes....its so basic and simple but damn it work thats why hes undefeated....

[razors_edge]

Lyoto and Rampage was supposed to happen but rampage punked out cuz he wanted to coach TUF

[Leon]

The biggest season of TUF, i wouldn't blame him. None the less, good for me since i want to see Rampage vs Rashad. Possibly in Memphis. That would be sweet.

[razors_edge]

that would be a good fight....i personally like rampage

[Leon]

that would be a good fight....i personally like rampage

Same here. But Rashad is more well rounded. Rashad has better striking, but Rampage has better boxing. So this should be a good stand up fight, i would say someone is getting KO'ed. Like Rampage said "i am ready for some black on black crime":D

[razors_edge]

Same here. But Rashad is more well rounded. Rashad has better striking, but Rampage has better boxing. So this should be a good stand up fight, i would say someone is getting KO'ed. Like Rampage said "i am ready for some black on black crime":D

lmaoo....i like rampages attitude, hes like a comedian.....but he better make some money while he can cuz hes goin to jail in January when they sentence him for that felony evading police charge...

[Leon]

I don't think he will go to Jail. I am sure he will strike a deal and do something else keeping him out of Jail. I would be surprised if he did go to Jail.

[razors_edge]

I don't think he will go to Jail. I am sure he will strike a deal and do something else keeping him out of Jail. I would be surprised if he did go to Jail.

he already took a plea agreement...he was supposed to have 2 felonys and 4 misdeameanors but since took a plea agreement and pleaded guilty to 1 felony and 1 misdeameanor i think he will go to jail cuz he pleaded guilty....unless he has some good LIARs....

[Leon]

I am sure he has some good "Liars" lol. Besides the UFC is probably going to financially back him since he is one of their PPV draws.

[razors_edge]

I am sure he has some good "Liars" lol. Besides the UFC is probably going to financially back him since he is one of their PPV draws.

im pretty sure if he doesnt go to jail he will get probation, hes already doing community service....in situations like this money talks, im pretty sure if it was me i would be doing 2-3 years federal time.....these celebrites and politicians get off easy except for that Madoff dude he got 150 years fed time....but back to MMA...have u heard anything about CRO COP..? ive actually drove thru his neighborhood once when i was small but CRO COP wasnt what he is today...i wish he comes to the ufc and stays in the ufc...the dude is young and he still has 7-8 yrs in him....

[Leon]

Cro Cop signed a one fight deal with UFC then he bolted from the UFC after his controversial victory over of al-turk. I believe he is now signed with the Japanese organization Dream, and will be fighting in their upcoming Dream 10 card.

I am not sure sure if you have HDNET on tv, but if your a MMA fan, Spike TV and HDNET are a must. Dream is shown for free on HDNET. UFC is on Spike, and everything else MMA is on HDNET.

[razors_edge]

i only have SPIKE tv no hdnet....what was so contrversial, cuz he poked him in the eye??? he would have beat his azZ anyways

[Leon]

Thats not the point though, he still poked his eye and it was a pretty bad poke. Sure cro crop would have finished him regardless, but this victory was directly related to the eye poke.

He probably left for dream because of the bigger pay check. But if you want to catch him fight, get HDNET, it is totally worth it. MMA in HD..cant get better than that.

[razors_edge]

lmaooo i dont have HD tv.....im poor bro....i need to upgrade as soon as i graduate and become freakin rich in 8 months.....

[Leon]

Shane Carwin vs. Cain Velasquez in works for UFC 104 in Los Angeles on Oct. 24 (http://mmajunkie.com/news/15377/shane-carwin-vs-cain-velasquez-in-works-for-ufc-104-in-los-angeles-on-oct-24.mma)

This is huge, i am pretty sure the winner of this fight gets the next title shot. I am picking Cain to win this one, he has a great GNP, take downs and wresting. He needs work on his striking, but other than that he is much better than Carwin. But if Cain decides to stand it up, Carwin will KO him. This is another match that has Brutal KO or TKO written all over it.

[razors_edge]

Shane Carwin vs. Cain Velasquez in works for UFC 104 in Los Angeles on Oct. 24 (http://mmajunkie.com/news/15377/shane-carwin-vs-cain-velasquez-in-works-for-ufc-104-in-los-angeles-on-oct-24.mma)

This is huge, i am pretty sure the winner of this fight gets the next title shot. I am picking Cain to win this one, he has a great GNP, take downs and wresting. He needs work on his striking, but other than that he is much better than Carwin. But if Cain decides to stand it up, Carwin will KO him. This is another match that has Brutal KO or TKO written all over it.

i feel u on this one....cain all the way hes undefeated so far n who the fawk is shane carwin? lol.....he doesnt stand a chance

[Leon]

Carwin is really good, have you watched any of this fights, most people already pick him to beat Cain. Carwin KO'd Gonzaga.
http://i43.tinypic.com/16i2yu.gif

[razors_edge]

i never really seen any of his fights but i heard of him...hes a decent fighter but i think cain will take him out

[Leon]

I think Carwin might be the hardest hitter in the HW division, Cain better watch out, he almost got KO'd by Check Kongo in their last fight. Cain need to take it to the ground asap, but it will be hard to keep Carwin down, since he has good Wresting look. This is going to be a very interesting match.

[razors_edge]

key word ALMOST....he eithers does it or doesnt....there is no in between......i really dont care for this match, but it is goin to be an intresting, i love every fight but there are some fights that im more intrested than others

[Leon]

There is always a in between man, not in terms of the result, but in terms of the future. If you almost got Ko'ed, that means your stand up needs work. Its something Carwin is going to factor into his game plan.

This summer is going to a awesome summer for MMA. Too bad the damn PPV's cost around 60 bucks. I am gonna be broke

[razors_edge]

There is always a in between man, not in terms of the result, but in terms of the future. If you almost got Ko'ed, that means your stand up needs work. Its something Carwin is going to factor into his game plan.

This summer is going to a awesome summer for MMA. Too bad the damn PPV's cost around 60 bucks. I am gonna be broke

dana white makes a shit load of money he has a PPV event every 3 weeks alot of damn money for da consumer.....i ordered a PPV once and snce that i havent....i usually see the results on the espn channel

[CASH]

Im sitting here watching SPIKE and they just advertised Kimbo on the next season of TUF. The marketing has started.

[ItsMe]

The ratings are gonna be huge for this season....

[ItsMe]

Call me crazy, but I would love to see Kimbo do well. A rags to riches story if you will. I've seen a few interviews and dude is actually pretty cool. I honestly think he could be a good fighter if he really did some dedicated training.

[Leon]

I would like to see Kimbo do well as well, but i doubt he has the work ethic to do so. His former trainer Bas Rutten said before his last fight to seth in EliteXC, Bas wanted to work on some ground skills, and Kimbo said no he didnt want to, because the fight wont go to the ground..:mellow:

[razors_edge]

I would like to see Kimbo do well as well, but i doubt he has the work ethic to do so. His former trainer Bas Rutten said before his last fight to seth in EliteXC, Bas wanted to work on some ground skills, and Kimbo said no he didnt want to, because the fight wont go to the ground..:mellow:

he has a weak ground game......im pretty sure he will win TUF and get his contract and then when he gets into the UFC he will start gettin his azz tore up

[Leon]

There are some really good HW on next seasons TUF, guys much bigger and stronger than Kimbo. They have a few guys from the NFL, who already have won a few MMA fights, so i really have a hard time imagining Kimbo winning TUF. If he does, i will instantly be a Kimbo fan.

[razors_edge]

do u know where to find a list of the contestants or they havent been chosen yet....when does the season start??

[Leon]

List of Contestants Expected to be on The Ultimate Fighter Season 10
(http://urdirt.com/2009/06/14/list-of-contestants-expected-to-be-on-the-ultimate-fighter-season-10/)

They have Roy Nelson, a former IFL HW champion. He is the favorite to win TUF.

[razors_edge]

thanks bro.....Darrill Schoonover....he looks pretty good stat wise....undefeated....
but that doesnt mean anything.....when does the season start Leon

[Leon]

September 16th. Quite some time, but it dont matter, this summer is going to be really busy with MMA events.

[razors_edge]

did u read on that site that Tito wants to fight Fedor....wtf is tito thinkin?

[Leon]

Tito got tooled by Machida, he will get destroyed by Fedor.

[CASH]

Tito wants to fight Fador.... awsome. I will pay to see that fight, just to watch Tito get is monkey a$$ stomped. I have an autographed picture of Liddel beating the piss out of Tito that I bought for the picture and not the autograph.

[CASH]

Ithink the UFC needs some new tallent in the heavy weight devision. It lacks the tallent pool that the other devisions have. I think Kimbo will sell out seats but lack the brains to make it very far.

[Leon]

The thing about the HW division is that you have a lot of upcoming talent and not much established talent. You have guys like Cain valaquez, Shane Carwin, Dos Santos, who are just climbing up the HW ladder. I would assume the HW division is going to stacked by 2010. Hopefully, Fedor decides to come over to the UFC, Then it would be really awesome.

Kimbo should move down to LHW, he does not carry a lot on him, i believe his fight weight is around 230ish Lbs. He could make 205 if he tried. If he does go to LHW, there are good possibilities, like Houston Alexander, James Irvin, or even Chuck Liddel or Wanderlei Silvia.

[Leon]

You will like this Razors edge, Cro Cop has been offered a new deal with the UFC, hopefully he takes it.

[CASH]

Cro Cop got anouther offer. Dana said he wouldnt let him back after the fight in Germany and him taking anouther contract with Dream.... Dana has a man crush on Cro Cop.
I agree that there is some good tallent coming in, if Congo gets his ground game together I think he could be a serious contender. Shane Carwin looks promising as does Cain. Still think that they need more fish in the pond.

[Leon]

Yeah, the HW division has traditionally always been the weakest in the UFC. New talent is always good. I think the winner of Cain/Carwin gets a title shot.

[CASH]

that was fast

[Leon]

UFC 100 is this coming weekend. Woot!

I am going to post my picks.

Brock Lesnar via R2 TKO.
GSP via R4 TKO or Decision.
Michael Bisbing via Decision
Jon Fitch via R1 submission
Yoshihiro Akiyama via R2 TKO.

[Leon]

Chuck Liddel says he is going to take a year off from MMA. What you thinks in the next move for him?

I think he needs to retire, he has nothing left to prove, he has beaten the best of the best in MMA, and in the most well known MMA fighters in the world. I would hate to see Chuck go the way of Shamrock.

[razors_edge]

Chuck Liddel says he is going to take a year off from MMA. What you thinks in the next move for him?

I think he needs to retire, he has nothing left to prove, he has beaten the best of the best in MMA, and in the most well known MMA fighters in the world. I would hate to see Chuck go the way of Shamrock.

i totally agree with u he needs to retire but i dont think he will retire just yet.........his next fight will be what determines what his decision will be IMO.....if he loses he will probably retire.....

[razors_edge]

my predicitons for UFC 100

Brock Lesnar wins by referee stoppage due to strikes 1st round
GSP TKO round 2
Dan Henderson by decision

[Leon]

I don't know, he is not competitive anymore, he has lost most of his fights recently, i don't see why he needs to damage his body anymore, since there is no hope of him going for the title again. I don't think i can see Chuck getting knocked out again..

[razors_edge]

it hurts my feelings everytime i seen him get knocked out....seriously....its hard for me seeing him get beat up, hes one of my favorite fighters

[Leon]

Yeah same here, and i want him to retire in a high spot, than some washed up fighter. I mean i love watching him fight and want him to fight, but i know he cant compete with the new generation of fighters. I wouldn't mind a re match with wanderlei Silvia though.

[razors_edge]

Yeah same here, and i want him to retire in a high spot, than some washed up fighter. I mean i love watching him fight and want him to fight, but i know he cant compete with the new generation of fighters. I wouldn't mind a re match with wanderlei Silvia though.

i think silva would take him out this time.....chucks about to be 40 and silva is 7 yrs younger, i dont know why but age means alot to me, once u hit 36-37 ur reactions r slower and u r not the same fighter when u were 25-35 yrs old....i like wanderlei's styles he goes out there and throws down, if he gets knocked out he still puts on a good show, his fights i will pay 60 dollars to see, its worth it....i have respect for that man

[CASH]

I still think Chuck is one of the most dangerous strikers in mma. I dont want to see him make a fool out of himself like Shamrock did. Open a gym, charge lots of money to train people and continue dating strippers. Go Chuck.

[Leon]

I think in MMA years Wanderlei is older, Because in combat sports and many other sports, your age is not just the number, but what you have done in those years. Wanderlei has fought a lot more, and has been hit a lot more, and he has taken waay more damage than Chuck in their career. You can see it in Wnderlei's latest fights, he moves like a person much older then him, his head movements are slow, his feet work is crappy. He is one of my fav fighters from Pride, but man, he is pretty beat up.

[razors_edge]

I still think Chuck is one of the most dangerous strikers in mma. I dont want to see him make a fool out of himself like Shamrock did. Open a gym, charge lots of money to train people and continue dating strippers. Go Chuck.

lmaoooooo.........oh man shamrocky embaressed himself, well tito embaressed him.....

[Leon]

lmaoooooo.........oh man shamrocky embaressed himself, well tito embaressed him.....

And chuck embarrassed Tito. So according to MMA math, Shamrock < Tito < Chuck. So technically Chuck can never scoop to shamrocks level. :D

[razors_edge]

And chuck embarrassed Tito. So according to MMA math, Shamrock < Tito < Chuck. So technically Chuck can never scoop to shamrocks level. :D

oh i know f shamrock,,,,, lidell is the siznit

[Leon]

Yes he is, and he still does have fight left in him. Except with top level competition.

[razors_edge]

i agrree he cant compete with the best

[Leon]

Chuck vs Kimbo..huge PPV, and it could be competitive. Neither like going to the ground, and both look for KO's. So this should be a great stand up fight till someone gets KTFO.

Also Chuck vs Houston Alexander would be good too.

[Dansgrizz]

Theres a big PPV this weekend right?

[Leon]

Yup UFC 100. you have to watch it Dan, i am sure you can find a local bar that is playing it. Go with a group of friends, so everyone can pitch in.

[razors_edge]

man im fuckked up

[Dansgrizz]

LOL i dont do well with bars... cant i just buy it for my own home enjoyment?

[Leon]

Sure, if you want to spend 60 bucks. What most people do is invite people over and everyone splits the cost. So if you have friends into MMA, invite them over.

[razors_edge]

mAN IM KINDA THOWD im holla at u later leon

[Dansgrizz]

Sure, if you want to spend 60 bucks. What most people do is invite people over and everyone splits the cost. So if you have friends into MMA, invite them over.

Its already planned man :) whos on the card for this weekend?

[Leon]

HERE (http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=eventdetail.fightcard&eid=2016) is the full fight card.

I am most hyped about Lesnar vs Mir, GSP vs Alves and Akiyama vs Belcher.

[Dansgrizz]

What about Brock?!?!?! lol i love that guy i used to watch him in college, in pro, an some vids from japan... i love that guy!

[Leon]

Brock Lesnar?..lol

[Leon]

MMA has come a looong way since the early days. Since its UFC 100, i was curious and rewatched some early UFC fights. I found one in a Yahoo MMA article. And man i haven't laughed soo hard watching MMA in a long time. Even though it was sad, no weight classes, clueless refs.. lol.

YouTube- Keith Hackney VS Emmanuel Yarborough

[Leon]

Just a reminder, guys don't forget to catch UFC's 100 all time greatest fights on Spike TV all this week. Its going to be sweet :D

[razors_edge]

it starts Sunday right? or Saturday? who do u think is goin to be #1 i have too many in mind to chose from

[razors_edge]

oh yeah who the feck is Brock? lol

[Leon]

I am pretty sure they are going to choose Forrest Griffin vs Stephan Bonnar in the Ultimate Fighter 1 Finale as the #1 fight. It the single most important fight in UFC history and a damn entertaining one at that.

[razors_edge]

i disagree with u on that one......i dont know how theyre pickin them, by entertainment purposes or by importance.....

[Leon]

I would assume by both. So whats your pick? Surely not cro-cop getting cro-copped by Gonzaga..lol:p

[razors_edge]

I would assume by both. So whats your pick? Surely not cro-cop getting cro-copped by Gonzaga..lol:p

lmaoooooooooooooooo.....

dude to be honest i have alot of them in mind.....i dont even know who to pick.....

matt hughes- gsp
randy couture - chucky
tito ortiz- ken
matt hughes - gracie

[razors_edge]

i have alot of them in my mind i just can pick 1.....all the fights are entertaining, im baffled leon

[razors_edge]

this is off topic, but i hate gracie he is no entertainer, all his wins are by submissions, Lyoto was leaning toward that "no entertainment" fight syle but hes becomin more entertaining now....just had to add that roflmao anyways

[Leon]

Gracie is completely one dimensional. He was fun to watch when he beat up dudes who had no idea what to do against BJJ. But once people figured him out, it was over.

[razors_edge]

i wouldnt consider him the best figher as they call him.....did u see the fight against hughes? gracie almost got his arm broken by hughes but he never quit, thats what i like about him.....but other than that he covered his head and let hughes hit him......personally i think HUGHES is the best figher in the ufc even though ihate his guts....he has 50 fights under his belts and only 7 losses in 10 years......who can beat that? hes 36 years old and probably can fight another 5-6 fights before he retires.....HUGHES IS A LEGEND IN MMA

[LiiL_L0cz]

havent read thru the thread but i just wanted to say IM BUYING THE FIGHT ON SAT... CANT WAIIITTTTTTT

[Leon]

Hughes is a Legend, i think is the greatest welterweight of all time. I mean GSP is awesome, but his victories are not as dominant as Hughes.

havent read thru the thread but i just wanted to say IM BUYING THE FIGHT ON SAT... CANT WAIIITTTTTTT

I am coming over. lol. I cant wait either. wooot!

[LiiL_L0cz]

I am coming over. lol. I cant wait either. wooot!

i agree HUGHES ALL THE WAY!!!! :) come on over my adress is 692 empire s............. ahahahahahaa not that crazy

BEER AND WINGS AND BLOOD! (beer and wings goes with everything) lol

[Leon]

I know why you want to order UFC100, your man crush GSP is on the card lol.

[LiiL_L0cz]

I know why you want to order UFC100, your man crush GSP is on the card lol.

heh *blushin* u caught me lol

[razors_edge]

hey ppl say i look like GSP twin brother wassup Loccz? holla at ya boi......jk i know, i know im not ur caliber

[Leon]

Sorry friend, she is mine. Want to settle it in the cage? I have sick GnP skills lol

[razors_edge]

i dont think u can handle me son........lol.....i do a lil BJJ and Muay Thai at Bam Bam Gym here in houston

[razors_edge]

ur ground and pound skills aint goin to work since ur goin to be put to sleep with one of my kicks.....good nite Leon holla at me when u wake up..............JP playin bro u my niggah

[Leon]

Look man, Ive watched every Gracie fight..my BJJ is top notch, before you know it, you will be arm bared. And i will take your arm home with me as a trophy. lol

[Leon]

This is for you Razors Edge. CRO COP IS BACK IN THE UFC.!!!!!! woot. And he is fighting at UFC103.
Yes, Junior Dos Santos is set to fight Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovoc at UFC 103 (http://mmajunkie.com/news/15450/yes-junior-dos-santos-is-set-to-fight-mirko-cro-cop-filipovoc-at-ufc-103.mma)

This is huge, i am soo exited. Both of them have excellent standup, and both have KO power. This is going to be very very entertaining.

[Cain714]

Main card

Heavyweight Championship bout: Champion Brock Lesnar vs. Interim Champion Frank Mir

Welterweight Championship bout: Georges St-Pierre vs. Thiago Alves

Middleweight bout: Dan Henderson vs. Michael Bisping

Welterweight bout: Jon Fitch vs. Paulo Thiago

Middleweight bout: Yoshihiro Akiyama vs. Alan Belcher



Preliminary card

Light Heavyweight bout: Mark Coleman vs. Stephan Bonnar

Lightweight bout: Mac Danzig vs. Jim Miller

Welterweight bout: Dong Hyun Kim vs. TJ Grant

Light Heavyweight bout: Jon Jones vs. Jake O’Brien

Middleweight bout: C.B. Dollaway vs. Tom Lawlor

Lightweight bout: Matt Grice vs. Shannon Gugerty

[Leon]

Threads merged.

[Leon]

I am soo exited about it.

War Lesnar!
War GSP!
War Bisping!
War Akiyama!
War Thiago!
War Miller!

[Cain714]

Yea, its gonna be exciting tonight. Lots of good fights to come. cant wait ....
I pick these below:

Champion Brock Lesnar vs. Interim Champion Frank Mir

Georges St-Pierre vs. Thiago Alves

Dan Henderson vs. Michael Bisping

Jon Fitch vs. Paulo Thiago

Yoshihiro Akiyama vs. Alan Belcher



Preliminary card

Mark Coleman vs. Stephan Bonnar

Mac Danzig vs. Jim Miller

Dong Hyun Kim vs. TJ Grant

Jon Jones vs. Jake O’Brien

C.B. Dollaway vs. Tom Lawlor

Matt Grice vs. Shannon Gugerty

[Cain714]

You gonna order it Leon ?

[Leon]

I might catch it at the bar. I cant spend 60 bucks on it...too much money for me.

[Leon]

Mark coleman?...dude...lol...i hope you did not bet any money on that fight. He gases in less than 3 minutes. While bonnar went the whole three rounds with Jon Jones.

[Leon]

Holy Crap, i am soo eating my words about Coleman. lol. Pretty impressive.

[razors_edge]

hey sp who the hell won i cant wqatch the fights............let me know the results whenever everything is over

[Cain714]

Brock Lesnar (c) def. Frank Mir (c) via KO (punches) — Round 2, 1:48

UFC Heavyweight Championship Unification
Georges St-Pierre (c) def. Thiago Alves via unanimous decision (50-45, 50-44, 50-45)

UFC Welterweight Championship

Dan Henderson def. Michael Bisping via KO (punch) — Round 2, 3:20

Yoshihiro Akiyama def. Alan Belcher via split decision (30-27, 28-29, 29-28)

Jon Fitch vs. Paulo Thiago

Mark Coleman def. Stephan Bonnar via unanimous decision (29-28, 29-28, 29-28)

Dan Miller def. Mac Danzig via unanimous decision (30-27, 30-27, 30-27)

Jon Jones def. Jake O’Brien via submission (guillotine choke) — Round 2, 2:43

Dong Hyun Kim def. T.J. Grant via unanimous decision (30-26, 30-26, 30-26)

Tom Lawlor def. C.B. Dollaway via submission (guillotine choke) — Round 1, 0:55

Shannon Gugerty def. Matt Grice via submission (guillotine choke) — Round 1, 2:36

[ItsMe]

Thats huge. Lesnar is a bonafied beast. Can't wait to actually watch these fights.

[Leon]

Both GSP and Brock won in dominant fashion.

Alves take down defense sucked balls. Way to come prepared to face one of the best wrestlers in MMA.

Brock just smothered Mir ever since the fight started, i am surprised that it went to R2.

I am happy with the card so far. All the fighters i wanted to win won. Mark Coleman shocked me.

[ItsMe]

I read that during the taping of the pre-fight interview promo for spiketv, Brock got so mad at the footage of him submitting being played over and over that he got up, punched a door and knocked it off its hinges.

[Leon]

If you watched the first fight againt the two. It was pretty much like that except mir did not get the submission. Winner of Carwin vs Cain for the title shot.

[razors_edge]

i hate brock lesnar i just read on yahoo that he was acting like a weiner after he won the fight.......dana white said that fedor and brock is and will happen pretty soon...

[ItsMe]

Frank Mir was talking pretty greazy before the fight, I can understand why Brock threw it in his face. Not to mention, we don't see every second before a fight-theres no telling what these guys say to each other before a fight.

[Leon]

Yes, brock was a dick after the fight. But thats brock, he loves to be the villain.

[CASH]

I just think Brock has a genuin dis like for Mir. They are to way different people as Brock is a simple guy and Mir is a pretty boy. Its not the first or the ast time shit talking like that will happen, plus it made for good hype.
Good to see Dan Henderson shut Bisbings mouth, in a BIG way.

[Leon]

Yeah, Brock does dislike Mir, especially when Mir keeps rubbing in his face about his rookie mistake of their first fight.

For instance in the Randy Coture fight, Brock was the first to shake his hand.

[CASH]

I think Mir took the fight a little to lightly in my oppinion. I know he trainned hard and came in good shape but I think when it came down to it he thought he was going to make a quick subission

[Leon]

I don't know, Mir just seemed to know he is going to loose before the fight. I mean, other than BJJ he has nothing against Brock. And BJJ specialists mostly win if the other guy makes mistakes. And this time Brock is not going to make the same mistake.

[OldfortKennels]

Well lets see, I LOVED THE WAY THE FIGHTS WENT!!!! I was 4 for 4!!! Mir got what he needed and Bisbing got what he DESERVED!!

[Cain714]

All i have to say is it was pay back to Mir, i knew from the start that it was all Brock. Cant wait for that Brock Vs. Fedor, its gotta happen now.

[Leon]

I don't know if Bisbing deserved the punch after he was already KO'ed.

Judge for yourself.
http://i32.tinypic.com/2ntikc7.gif

[ItsMe]

LOL, thats the just the nature of the sport....

[Leon]

No its not, i mean Dan Henderson said after the fight, he knew Bisping was Unconscious, and he punched him again to shut him up.

[kumhomomma]

AND to all a good night..

[Nizmo357]

No its not, i mean Dan Henderson said after the fight, he knew Bisping was Unconscious, and he punched him again to shut him up.

sounds reasonable :rolleyes:

[ItsMe]

With a sport like this, there is certainly the potential for high emotions. Seems to me that Bisping wrote a check with his mouth that his ass couldn't cash.

[CASH]

By law of the sport he had every rite to, you go untill the ref pulls you off. Now was it necesary to give him a shot like that after he was out absoufuckinlootly not, but thats the risk you take when you talk shit like Bisbing did. He took the shit talking a little far and paid the price. my oppinin. Rampage did the same thing to Vanderlay.

[Leon]

Yup, Rampage did it. But i don't think it was this bad. And Henderson clearly knew he was unconscious, admitted to it.

[ItsMe]

The moral of the story is you can't talk to people any crazy old way you want to. These are men who have made a career out of knocking each other out and its just business. Theres no reason to start talking crazy and you are liable for the things you say if you do. Hence the extra forearm. (LOL, talkin about MMA fighters.)

[razors_edge]

im glad he hit bisping, f that dude he has a big mouth.....he wont be cocky no more.....

[CASH]

OOOO for sure he knew he was out, Bisbing was a stiff as a 2x4. I think it was a combination of dislike, addrenaline and training.

[razors_edge]

OOOO for sure he knew he was out, Bisbing was a stiff as a 2x4. I think it was a combination of dislike, addrenaline and training.

i agree.....................

[CASH]

as stated before. talk that crazy shit you can expect guys to give you a few extra.

[razors_edge]

a deserved few extra hits to da noggin.......

[LiiL_L0cz]

ahahaha i like when bispon got up and was like "where am i" and his coach was like " u got knocked out" HAAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

ahhaha

[Leon]

I can feel the love for Bisbing on here. lol

[razors_edge]

ufc 101.........florian vs penn
griffin vs silva......

what yall think

[Leon]

Penn Via TKO R2.
Silvia Via Murder R1.

[razors_edge]

Penn Via TKO R2.
Silvia Via Murder R1.

lmao @ murder..........

i think forrest will take it to r3 and then give up like a biach

[Leon]

Forrest is screwed, i just don't see how he can win. Silvia's stand up is one of the best in MMA, great boxing and Muai Thai, much better than Forrest. And he has a Black belt in BJJ. I expect Forrest to get Franklined, and Forrest is going to have a black eye for a long time.

[Leon]

There have been rumors that Tito is returning to the UFC...this could be very interesting. But i doubt it is true.

[razors_edge]

i dont think its true either, i could care less for tito but he sure knows how to hype up a fight.....

[Leon]

He is a good fighter too. He is not just all talk, he can fight. I mean he wont be in the top 10, but there are plenty of LHW fights for him in the UFC.

[razors_edge]

he is a good fighter but i dont think TITO would want to settle for anything less than a championship belt, he has a big ego......which he cant get anymore

[Leon]

If he does come back, let him fight Jon Jones..I don't mind seeing Tito thrown around like a rag doll.

[razors_edge]

that dude is undefeated and hes very young, he has a good future ahead of him.....

[razors_edge]

carwin vs velasquez (ufc 104) winner gets a shot for the belt against brock......

[Leon]

Carwin is more of a threat to Brock then Cain, because of his standup. He could KO Lesnar.

[razors_edge]

yeah i think carwin will take cain out, the dude is a a beast.....hes the same size of brock...i think brock would take him out cuz carwin was talkin shit about him on his blog....cains last 2 fights against kongo and stojnic werent impressive at all, he dominated against stojnic but he didnt dominate like he should have....i think cain is overrated

[Leon]

See thats a mistake, Carwin is really a lot smaller than Brock, If you notice in the Gonzaga fight, Carwin looked smaller than Gonzaga. I think Carwin is only 240 or 250lbs, while Brock is easily 270lbs.

If its standing Carwin could KO or TKO Cain. But Carwins ground game is untested, even though he is good wrestler on paper, Cain has showed more dominance on the ground. Also both Cain and Carwin were both rocked in the last fights, so we know both of them have good chins. This should be a good fight.

Also if you checked the latest news, Dan Henderson will be fighting Rich Franklin Again at UFC 103..the suck man. What the hell, another boring rematch.

[razors_edge]

shane carwin is 6'3 165lbs and brock is the same height and weight as him....hopefully that hendo - franklin fight some1 gets knocked out, cuz ur right the fight was boring

[Leon]

On fight night against Gonzaga Carwin was less than 250lbs. Brock is by far the biggest in the HW division. And weight advantage is huge when it comes to wrestling. If it goes to the ground, Brock will win. But Carwin has decent take down defense, so he will be the first one to test Brock's stand up. That is IF he gets past Cain. People give Cain too little credit, but he is more well rounded than Carwin.

[razors_edge]

im not a big fan of cain, hopefully carwin win and takes out brock, which i doubt......only person i see takin out brock is fedor....which is goin to happen by the way....not anytime time soon maybe a year....hopefully brock doesnt leave the UFC to go play in the MLB cuz he hears fedors footsteps

[Leon]

I think its Fedor who is ducking Brock. I mean a loss to Fedor wont hurt Brock, But a loss to Brock will hurt Fedor's "greatest HW of all time" status.

[ItsMe]

I tend to agree Leon, I actually think Brock could be a formidable opponent for Fedor. And that really would hurt his status....

[CASH]

The latest I heard on the Brock-Fadore fight is that it may not happen due to EA Sports putting out a mma game. Dana has a grudge agenst EA becouse they told him to pound sand when making this last UFC game. Joe Silva told yahoo sports that anyone that participated in the EA Sports game would never fight in the UFC with the exception of Dandy Coture.

[razors_edge]

i dont consider fedor the greaatest HW of all time, not until he competes in the UFC and fights the best fighters around the world....when he comes to the ufc and if he dominates then u can consider him the greatest hw of all time

[Leon]

When pride was the biggest the organization in the world, he was the best HW in the world. But time has moved on since then. And he hasn't fought a legit heavy since around 2005-06. His fans use the fact that he beat two former UFC champions to validate his greatest HW status. Two things there..one they are "former" champions, that means they were already beaten by someone else, so fedor beating them is nothing special. Second, they are not in the UFC anymore, because they cant hang in the UFC HW division anymore. So your saying, Fedor beat some former UFC champ, who isn't even good enough to be in the weak UFC HW division to validate his greatness? funny. Also as further proof that Arlovski and Tim Silvia are washed up and overrated, they both lost their first fight after Fedor in embarrassing fashion to guys who cant even compete in the UFC level.

[Leon]

Big news. Josh Barnett failed his drug test. The main event of Afflictions card is in Limbo. I think this is the nail in the coffin for Affliction. And now that Fedor has no one else to fight, he might consider coming to the UFC.

[Leon]

Michael Bisping vs. Wanderlei Silva in the works for main event of UFC 105 in November (http://mmajunkie.com/news/15605/michael-bisping-vs-wanderlei-silva-in-the-works-for-main-event-of-ufc-105-in-november.mma)

I don't know how Michael Bisping will handle it when he gets KTFO for the second time in a row. lol

[razors_edge]

wow! bisping vs the axe murderer, i love that guy man, he always puts on a show, win or lose.......yeah im with u on this one, silva is goin to knock bisping the fawk out......

[Leon]

"Affliction: Trilogy" event canceled (http://mmajunkie.com/news/15621/aug-1-affliction-trilogy-event-canceled.mma)

Thats right folks, the t-shirt guy couldn't cut it in the fight business, Dana was right after all. Too bad too, i wanted to see Fedor and Moussasi fight.

[Leon]

Even bigger news.

Affliction folds MMA promotion, will sponsor UFC (http://mmajunkie.com/news/15625/affliction-folds-mma-promotion-will-sponsor-ufc.mma)

Looks like now Fedor has no where to hide. He needs to get his ass over to the UFC and fight Brock.

I also wish the UFC would pick up Mousassi too. Hes a great up and comer.

[razors_edge]

damn that is big news, i think i seen a video on bj penns website where some dude says that affliction was canceled but i just barely woke up n i wasnt payin attn to it.......so its goin to happen sooner than everyone expected.....i wonder if fedor is goin to have to battle his way to the top or just get his belt right away......probably have 1 fight before the championship bout......good post man

[Leon]

I just watched a interview with Dana White on ESPN. He said, if Fedor comes he will immediately get the title shot.

I am looking forward to CroCop vs Dos santos, and Cain Vs Carwin, those fights could have a play in who is next in line.

I think a Brock vs Crocop would be more popular then even Fedor since more people know CroCop and his crazy leg kicks.

[razors_edge]

thats my favorite fighter of all time.......cro cop tasted his own medicine one time when he got knocked the F out by Gonzaga........Brock vs Cro Cop, i doubt that will ever happen unless Brock loses well WHEN he LOSES his belt to Fedor, Cro Cop is the shit though man he went the distance with Fedor and most fighters cant do that, they either get submitted or KOd real quick.....the thing about fedor is that most fighters in the UFC dont have the fighting style like Fedor, they train Muay Thai and BJJ or wrestling......he trains Sambo and Judo so i wonder how that will effect his game when he comes to the UFC.......i think there need to be a Cro COp vs Fedor 2....

[Leon]

The cage plays a big part in strategy. Look what Kongo did against CroCop, he just pushed him against the cage and held him there. So i am wondering how good Fedor would do in a cage.