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08-09-2009, 02:31 AM
updated 7:02 a.m. EDT, Sat August 8, 2009
By Doug Gross

CNN) -- Your dog may not actually be smarter than somebody's honor student -- popular bumper stickers aside. But your canine companion might well be smarter than their toddler, according to a growing body of research on how dogs think.

Using adapted tests designed for human children, psychologists have learned that average dogs can count, reason and recognize words and gestures on par with a human 2 -year-old.

"They may not be Einsteins, but are sure closer to humans than we thought," said Stanley Coren, a professor emeritus at the University of British Columbia and leading researcher on dog behavior.

Coren planned to present his research Saturday at the American Psychological Association's (http://www.apa.org/?cnn=yes) annual convention in Toronto, Canada.

He said the average dog can understand about 165 words, including signs, signals and gestures. They can also count to about 5, he said.

"I mean, we're not going to make them an accountant or something," Coren said in an interview with CNN Radio.

The smartest dogs, he calls them the "super breeds," are on par with a 2½-year-old, recognizing up to 250 words.

And, no, not all breeds are created equally.

For his book "The Intelligence of Dogs," Coren asked more than 200 dog-obedience judges to rank 110 breeds based on their intelligence. Border collies, poodles, retrievers, German shepherds and Doberman pinschers were among the dogs at the head of the class.

The intellectual runts of the litter? The borzoi, chow chow, bulldog, basenji and -- finishing dead last -- the Afghan hound.

The dividing line, Coren (http://www.stanleycoren.com/?cnn=yes) said, tends to be the age of the breed. More recent breeds, like the collies and retrievers, have been bred for years to do what humans want them to do.

"We've been wiring into dogs the ability to communicate with us," said Coren, author of several books on dogs' thinking, most recently "The Modern Dog." "If you will, we've been manipulating their intelligence."

Meanwhile, breeds like hounds naturally did what humans wanted -- i.e. chase tasty animals -- and didn't need to be fine-tuned, he said.

"They did the work all by themselves," Coren said. "They didn't have to cooperate with the human being, and all the human had to do was get there before the dogs ate it all."

Included in the number of "words" dogs are believed to know are hand gestures, like pointing, and nonverbal sounds, like the whistles used to direct sheep dogs and retrievers.

Counting ability is tested in drills such as one in which treats are dropped, one at a time, behind a screen. When the researcher either sneaks away one of the treats or stealthily adds an extra before raising the screen, the dog will wait longer -- appearing to puzzle over the bad math -- before eating the treats.

That's the same way toddlers respond when faced with a similar switch, said Coren.

Aubrey Fine, a psychologist and faculty member at California State Polytechnic University, said research like Coren's could help dog owners better relate to their animals.

"Too often, many people look at dogs as four-legged people," said Fine, who specializes in the use of dogs in treating patients with developmental disorders and other mental-health conditions. "We need to recognize what dogs cue in to. Once you understand better how to interact, it causes a better coexistence with your pet companion."

Coren said the findings on dog intelligence showed they have more sense than some scientists may have thought, but that some in the general public may be surprised for different reasons that span a wide range of thought.

"There are some people who think that dogs are just little human beings running around in fur coats and there are other people who sort of think that they're unfeeling biological mechanisms," he said. "The truth of the matter is really that dogs are neither extreme."

Fact Box

Psychologist Stanley Coren asked dog-obedience judges to rank 110 dog breeds from most to least intelligent.

Top Five
1. Border collies
2. Poodles
3. German shepherds
4. Golden retrievers
5. Doberman pinchers

Bottom Five
106. Borzoi
107. Chow chow
108. Bulldog
109. Basenji
110. Afghan hound

Source: "The Intelligence of Dogs"

Your family dog may be smarter than your toddler - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/personal/08/07/smart.dogs/index.html?section=cnn_latest)

Dansgrizz
08-09-2009, 02:37 AM
Bulldog... Hmmm is that a breed? Seems a little general. I think apbts are smarter than most of their owners ;)

ItsMe
08-09-2009, 02:44 AM
All the border collies I've met are neurotic and annoying...

CASH
08-09-2009, 03:14 AM
No way a golden is that smart.

George Bailey
08-09-2009, 04:50 AM
updated 7:02 a.m. EDT, Sat August 8, 2009
By Doug Gross

CNN) -- Your dog may not actually be smarter than somebody's honor student -- popular bumper stickers aside. But your canine companion might well be smarter than their toddler, according to a growing body of research on how dogs think.

Using adapted tests designed for human children, psychologists have learned that average dogs can count, reason and recognize words and gestures on par with a human 2 -year-old.

"They may not be Einsteins, but are sure closer to humans than we thought," said Stanley Coren, a professor emeritus at the University of British Columbia and leading researcher on dog behavior.

Coren planned to present his research Saturday at the American Psychological Association's (http://www.apa.org/?cnn=yes) annual convention in Toronto, Canada.

He said the average dog can understand about 165 words, including signs, signals and gestures. They can also count to about 5, he said.

"I mean, we're not going to make them an accountant or something," Coren said in an interview with CNN Radio.

The smartest dogs, he calls them the "super breeds," are on par with a 2½-year-old, recognizing up to 250 words.

And, no, not all breeds are created equally.

For his book "The Intelligence of Dogs," Coren asked more than 200 dog-obedience judges to rank 110 breeds based on their intelligence. Border collies, poodles, retrievers, German shepherds and Doberman pinschers were among the dogs at the head of the class.

The intellectual runts of the litter? The borzoi, chow chow, bulldog, basenji and -- finishing dead last -- the Afghan hound.

The dividing line, Coren (http://www.stanleycoren.com/?cnn=yes) said, tends to be the age of the breed. More recent breeds, like the collies and retrievers, have been bred for years to do what humans want them to do.

"We've been wiring into dogs the ability to communicate with us," said Coren, author of several books on dogs' thinking, most recently "The Modern Dog." "If you will, we've been manipulating their intelligence."

Meanwhile, breeds like hounds naturally did what humans wanted -- i.e. chase tasty animals -- and didn't need to be fine-tuned, he said.

"They did the work all by themselves," Coren said. "They didn't have to cooperate with the human being, and all the human had to do was get there before the dogs ate it all."

Included in the number of "words" dogs are believed to know are hand gestures, like pointing, and nonverbal sounds, like the whistles used to direct sheep dogs and retrievers.

Counting ability is tested in drills such as one in which treats are dropped, one at a time, behind a screen. When the researcher either sneaks away one of the treats or stealthily adds an extra before raising the screen, the dog will wait longer -- appearing to puzzle over the bad math -- before eating the treats.

That's the same way toddlers respond when faced with a similar switch, said Coren.

Aubrey Fine, a psychologist and faculty member at California State Polytechnic University, said research like Coren's could help dog owners better relate to their animals.

"Too often, many people look at dogs as four-legged people," said Fine, who specializes in the use of dogs in treating patients with developmental disorders and other mental-health conditions. "We need to recognize what dogs cue in to. Once you understand better how to interact, it causes a better coexistence with your pet companion."

Coren said the findings on dog intelligence showed they have more sense than some scientists may have thought, but that some in the general public may be surprised for different reasons that span a wide range of thought.

"There are some people who think that dogs are just little human beings running around in fur coats and there are other people who sort of think that they're unfeeling biological mechanisms," he said. "The truth of the matter is really that dogs are neither extreme."

Fact Box

Psychologist Stanley Coren asked dog-obedience judges to rank 110 dog breeds from most to least intelligent.

Top Five
1. Border collies
2. Poodles
3. German shepherds
4. Golden retrievers
5. Doberman pinchers

Bottom Five
106. Borzoi
107. Chow chow
108. Bulldog
109. Basenji
110. Afghan hound

Source: "The Intelligence of Dogs"

Your family dog may be smarter than your toddler - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/personal/08/07/smart.dogs/index.html?section=cnn_latest)

I have a lot to say about this particular subject and author.

I met Mr. Coren at a conference in July of '08, where he was attending a presentation by Kayce Cover on SATS Bridge and Target in Hutto, TX. I did not attend his presentation, I was there to demo for Kayce, with George Bailey. I brought a student of mine who has a rescue dog who is quite dog aggressive, lots of battle scars, had never been in a car with another dog, certainly not been at a dog conference. He wrote some pretty derogatory statements about the breed and kept a close eye on us. I sure was glad I didn't know all that beforehand.

We demonstrated an application for aggression, using the two dogs targeting body parts on a baby gate, and George did some obedience applications, which were also word recognition, including indicating direction, plus George's video was played (for those of you who haven't seen it, he puts things in the trash). The demos were really good, and I wish I had the photos/video from it.

First of all, like many statistics, his are terribly skewed, because the people he interviewed were obedience judges. He should have asked trainers. For instance, there is one obedience trial champion Afghan, but you see even fewer Afghans in the ob ring than Amstaffs. His top breeds are the most commonly shown in obedience, they are all basically bred to work with and for people rather than independently. I have put several titles on PWCorgis, and I promise you, it is much easier to teach them many of the obedience exercises than the Amstaffs.

Secondly, he doesn't take into account all the many unique capabilities the different breeds have, or that obedience competition, although quite valid in showcasing partnership and control, has nothing to do with that. In other words, he never considered things like blood trailing, earth dog, pull dog, cart dog, on and on.

Obedience is based on performance and compliance to a set of predetermined rules, there's no place for free thinking, it's command and obey. To me, commands are part of management for real life, but they don't have much to do with what I can actually teach my dog, what they can learn, and they have even less to do with developing participation. Participation is gained through support on the one hand, on the other, we all have rules we must live by.

Coren offers a kit to test your dog's intelligence; one of the tests is basically a shell game, put a treat under one of three containers and see how long it takes your dog to find it. This is not even a test of intelligence, it's an incredibly simple scent discrimination. How presumptuous to be amazed that they can find the treat--- their noses are hundreds of times more accute than ours!

Kayce Cover is a Master of Ed (also has a BA in animal Science) and has a unique point of view that we can teach all species, teach, not train to do things by rote, and she lays out very specific guidelines for doing so. I think the main thing we need to get over is the command mentality, while preserving management for each animal as needed. After I read her work and studied with her, I totally rearranged my thinking regarding teaching not just dogs, but all animals, people, too.

I think it is probably not wise to make assumptions as to what dogs can learn until we truly learn how to teach them and recognize cognizance. It's quite possible we've been belittling the intelligence of other species rather than manipulating it.

Julie K